Wesley Corpus

Wesley Collected Works Vol 8

AuthorJohn Wesley
Typetreatise
YearNone
Passage IDjw-wesley-collected-works-vol-8-488
Words395
Catholic Spirit Universal Redemption Justifying Grace
You do not say it was out of any dislike of his doctrines or proceed ings. Nor indeed can you, consistently with your next words: ‘The great fault of the Moravian Church seems to lie, in not openly disclaiming all he had said; which, in all probability they would have done, had they not leaned to the same opinion.” “You ‘never knew but one of the Moravian Church affirm, that a believer does not grow in holiness. But who was this? No less a person than Count Zinzendorf, their great Bishop and patron, whose authority is very high, all in all with them, and to whom you think they pay too much regard.” (Second Letter, page 79.) 2. This is the whole of your reply to this part of my answer. I will now consider it, part by part. First. “With regard to the denying degrees in faith, you mentioned, ‘that the Moravian Church was cleared from this mistake. But did you not mention this as one of the tenets of the Moravians?” No; not of the Moravians in general. “Do you not say, that you ‘could not agree with Mr. Span genberg, that none has any faith, so long as he is liable to any doubt or fear?’” I do say so still. But Spangenberg is not the Moravian Church. “Do you not represent Mr. Molther, and other Moravians in England, as teaching the same?” I do; three or four in all. But neither are these the Moravian Church. “In short, I have not charged the Moravian Church with anything; but only repeat after you.” Indeed you have, in the very case before us. You charge them with deny ing degrees in faith. I do not charge them herewith. I openly cleared them from any such charge near six years ago. “If, therefore, you have accused them when you knew them to be guiltless, you must bear the blame.” In this case I must entreat you to bear it in my stead: For I have not accused them,--the Moravian Church. It is you that have accused them. I have again and again declared they are not guilty. Secondly. “‘They do use the ordinances of God with rever ence and godly fear.’ You have charged Mr. Spangenberg and Mr. Molther with teaching, that we ought to abstain from them.” That we? No. That unbelievers ought.