Wesley Collected Works Vol 8
| Author | John Wesley |
|---|---|
| Type | treatise |
| Year | None |
| Passage ID | jw-wesley-collected-works-vol-8-488 |
| Words | 395 |
You
do not say it was out of any dislike of his doctrines or proceed
ings. Nor indeed can you, consistently with your next words:
‘The great fault of the Moravian Church seems to lie, in not
openly disclaiming all he had said; which, in all probability
they would have done, had they not leaned to the same opinion.”
“You ‘never knew but one of the Moravian Church affirm,
that a believer does not grow in holiness. But who was this? No less a person than Count Zinzendorf, their great Bishop and
patron, whose authority is very high, all in all with them, and
to whom you think they pay too much regard.” (Second
Letter, page 79.)
2. This is the whole of your reply to this part of my answer. I will now consider it, part by part. First. “With regard to the denying degrees in faith, you
mentioned, ‘that the Moravian Church was cleared from this
mistake. But did you not mention this as one of the tenets
of the Moravians?” No; not of the Moravians in general. “Do you not say, that you ‘could not agree with Mr. Span
genberg, that none has any faith, so long as he is liable to
any doubt or fear?’” I do say so still. But Spangenberg
is not the Moravian Church. “Do you not represent Mr. Molther, and other Moravians in England, as teaching the
same?” I do; three or four in all. But neither are these the
Moravian Church. “In short, I have not charged the Moravian
Church with anything; but only repeat after you.” Indeed you
have, in the very case before us. You charge them with deny
ing degrees in faith. I do not charge them herewith. I openly
cleared them from any such charge near six years ago. “If,
therefore, you have accused them when you knew them to be
guiltless, you must bear the blame.” In this case I must entreat
you to bear it in my stead: For I have not accused them,--the
Moravian Church. It is you that have accused them. I have
again and again declared they are not guilty. Secondly. “‘They do use the ordinances of God with rever
ence and godly fear.’ You have charged Mr. Spangenberg and
Mr. Molther with teaching, that we ought to abstain from
them.” That we? No. That unbelievers ought.