Journal Vol1 3
| Author | John Wesley |
|---|---|
| Type | journal |
| Year | None |
| Passage ID | jw-journal-vol1-3-333 |
| Words | 393 |
Fri. 25.--My brother and I went to Mr. Molther again, and spent
two hours in conversation with him. He now also explicitly affirmed,
1. That there are no degrees in faith ; that none has any faith who has
ever any doubt or fear; and that none is justified till he has a clean
heart, with the perpetual indwelling of Christ, and of the Holy Ghost :
and 2. That every one who has not-this, ought, till he has , to be
still: that is, as he explained it, not to use the ordinances, or means
of grace, so called. He also expressly asserted, 1. That to those who
have a clean heart, the ordinances are nut matter of duty. They are
not commanded to use them: they are free: they may use them, or
they may not. 2. That those who have not a clean heart, ought not to
use them; (particularly not to communicate ;) because God neither
commands nor designs they should; (commanding them to none,
designing them only for believers;) and because they are not means of
grace ; there being no such thing as means of grace, but Christ only.
Ten or twelve persons spoke to me this day also, and many more
the day following, who had been greatly troubled by this new gospel, and thrown into the utmost heaviness; and, indeed, wherever 1
went, I found more and more proofs of the grievous confusion it had
occasioned; many coming to me day hv day, who were once full of
peace and love; but were now again plunged into doubts and fears,
‘ and driven even to their wit’s end. I was now utterly at a loss what
course to take ; finding no rest for the sole of my foot. These “ vain
janglings” pursued me wherever I went, and were always sounding in
my ears.-- Wednesday, 30, I went to my friend, (that was!) Mr. St--,
at Islington. But he also immediately entered upon tue subject, telling
me, now he was fully assured, that no one has any degree of faith till
he is perfect as God is perfect. I asked, “ Have you then no degree
of faith?” He said, * No; for I have not a clean heart.” I turned
and asked his servant, “ Esther, have you a clean heart?” She said,