To 1773
| Author | John Wesley |
|---|---|
| Type | journal |
| Year | None |
| Passage ID | jw-journal-1760-to-1773-244 |
| Words | 383 |
B. There are oaths of several honest men; and shall we
take your word for it, that all is but misinformation? W. There was no oath given or taken. Besides, if it be
216 REv. J. weslEY’s [May, 1765. enough to accuse, who shall be innocent? I can appeal to the
determination of the great day of judgment, that the large
catalogue of matters laid to me are either things invented or
mistaken. B. Did not you ride with your sword in the time of the
Committee of Safety, and engage with them? W. Whatever imprudences in civil matters you may be
informed I am guilty of, I shall crave leave to acquaint your
Lordship, that, His Majesty having pardoned them fully, I
shall wave any other answer. B. In what manner did the Church you spake of send you
to preach 7 At this rate every body might preach. W. Not every one. Everybody has not preaching gifts
and preaching graces. Besides, that is not all I have to offer
to your Lordship to justify my preaching. B. If you preach, it must be according to order; the order
of the Church of England upon ordination. W. What does your Lordship mean by ordination? B. Do not you know what I mean? W If you mean that sending spoken of in Romans x., I
had it. B. I mean that. What mission had you? W. I had a mission from God and man. B. You must have it according to law, and the order of the
Church of England. W. I am not satisfied in my spirit therein. B. Not satisfied in your spirit ! You have more new
coined phrases than ever were heard of ! You mean your
conscience, do you not? W. Spirit is no new phrase. We read of being sanctified
in soul, body, and spirit. B. By spirit there we are to understand the upper region
of the soul. W. Some think we are to take it for the conscience; but
if your Lordship like it not so, then I say I am not satisfied
in conscience, as touching the ordination you speak of. B. Conscience argues science, science supposes judgment,
and judgment reason. What reason have you that you will
not be thus ordained ? W.