Wesley Collected Works Vol 9
| Author | John Wesley |
|---|---|
| Type | treatise |
| Year | None |
| Passage ID | jw-wesley-collected-works-vol-9-049 |
| Words | 393 |
Whitefield charges Mr. Wesley with hold
ing universal redemption, and I charge him with holding parti
cular redemption. This is the standing charge on either side. And now, Sir, “what are we to think?” Why, that you have
not proved one point of this charge against the Methodists. However, you stumble on: “Are these things so? Are
they true, or are they not true? If not true, they are grievous
calumniators; if true, they are detestable sectarists. Whether
true or false, the allegation stands good of their fierce and
rancorous quarrels, and mutual heinous accusations.”
Sir, has your passion quite extinguished your reason? Have
fierceness and rancour left you no understanding? Otherwise,
how is it possible you should run on at this senseless, shameless
rate? These things are true which Mr. Whitefield and Wes
ley object to each other. He holds the decrees; I do not: Yet
this does not prove us “detestable sectarists.” And whether
these things are true or false, your allegation of our “fierce and
rancorous quarrels, and mutual heinous accusations,” cannot
stand good, without better proof than you have yet produced. 34. Yet, with the utmost confidence, quasi re bene gesta,”
you proceed, “And how stands the matter among their dis
ciples? They are all together by the ears, embroiled and
broken with unchristian quarrels and confusions.”
* As though you had accomplished some mighty affair.-EDIT. How do you prove this? Why thus: “Mr. Wesley's
Fourth Journal is mostly taken up in enumerating their
wrath, dissensions, and apostasies.” No, Sir, not a tenth
part of it; although it gives a full and explicit account of the
greatest dissensions which ever were among them. But to come to particulars: You First cite these words,
“At Oxford, but a few who had not forsaken them.”
My words are, “Monday, October 1, 1738. I rode to
Oxford, and found a few who had not yet forsaken the
assembling themselves together.” This is your First proof
that “the Methodists are all together by the ears.” Your
Second is its very twin-brother. “Tuesday, 2. I went to
many who once heard the word with joy; but ‘when the sun
arose they withered away.’” (Vol. I. p. 227.)
Your Third is this: “Many were induced (by the
Moravians) to deny the gift of God, and affirm they never
had any faith at all.” (Ibid. p.