Treatise Letter To Person Joined With Quakers
| Author | John Wesley |
|---|---|
| Type | treatise |
| Year | None |
| Passage ID | jw-treatise-letter-to-person-joined-with-quakers-007 |
| Words | 388 |
What are all these to the point in question? For examples of silent meetings he refers to the five texts
following:--
“They were all with one accord in one place.” (Acts ii. 1.)
“So they sat down with him seven days and seven nights,
and none spake a word unto him: For they saw that his
grief was very great.” (Job ii. 13.) “Then were assembled
unto me every one that trembled at the words of God. And
I sat astonied until the evening sacrifice.” (Ezra ix. 4.)
“Then came certain of the elders of Israel unto me, and sat
before me.” (Ezek. xiv. 1; xx. 1.)
Was it possible for Robert Barclay to believe, that any one
of these texts was anything to the purpose? The odd expressions here also, “Ceasing from all outwards,
in the natural will and comprehension, and feeling after the
inward seed of life,” are borrowed from Jacob Behmen. “12. As there is one Lord and one faith, so there is one
baptism.” Yea, one outward baptism; which you deny. Here, therefore, is another difference between Quakerism and
Christianity. But “if those whom John baptized with water were not
baptized with the baptism of Christ, then the baptism of
water is not the baptism of Christ.”
This is a mere quibble. The sequel ought to be, “Then
that baptism of water” (that is, John's baptism) “was not
the baptism of Christ.” Who says it was? Yet Robert Barclay is so fond of this argument, that he
repeats it almost in the same words:
“If John, who administered the baptism of water, yet did
not baptize with the baptism of Christ, then the baptism of
water is not the baptism of Christ.”
This is the same fallacy still. The sequel here also
should be, “Then that baptism of water was not the baptism
of Christ.”
He repeats it, with a little variation, a third time: “Christ
himself saith, ‘John baptized with water, but ye shall be
baptized with the Holy Ghost.’”
He repeats it a fourth time: “Peter saith, “Then remem
bered I the word of the Lord, John baptized with water,
but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost. From all
which it follows, that such as John baptized with water, yet
were not baptized with the baptism of Christ.” Very true.