Treatise Dialogue Predestinarian And Friend
| Author | John Wesley |
|---|---|
| Type | treatise |
| Year | None |
| Passage ID | jw-treatise-dialogue-predestinarian-and-friend-003 |
| Words | 377 |
22, sec. 1.)
Friend.--And do not you think that reprobation, at least,
is grounded on God’s foreknowing men’s sins? Pred.--No indeed: “God of his own good pleasure ordains
that many should be born, who are from the womb devoted
to inevitable damnation. If any man pretend that God’s
foreknowledge lays them under no necessity of being damned,
but rather that he decreed their dammation because he fore
knew their wickedness, I grant that God’s foreknowledge
, alone lays no necessity on the creature; but eternal life and
death depend on the will rather than the foreknowledge of
God. If God only foreknew all things that relate to all men,
and did not decree and ordain them also, then it might be
inquired whether or no his foreknowledge necessitates the
thing foreknown. But seeing he therefore foreknows all
things that will come to pass, because he has decreed they
shall come to pass, it is vain to contend about foreknowledge,
since it is plain all things come to pass by God’s positive
decree.” (Ibid., c. 23, s. 6.)
Friend.--But if God has positively decreed to damn the
greater part of mankind, why does he call upon them to
repent and be saved? Pred.--“As God has his effectual call, whereby he gives the
elect the salvation to which he ordained them, so he has his
judgments towards the reprobates, whereby he executes his
decree concerning them. As many, therefore, as he created to
live miserably, and then perish everlastingly; these, that they
may be brought to the end for which they were created, he
sometimes deprives of the possibility of hearing the word, and
at other times, by the preaching thereof, blinds and stupifies
them the more.” (Ibid., c. 24, s. 12.)
Friend.--How is this? I say, if God has created them for
never-ending death, why does he call to them to turn and live? Pred.--“He calls to them, that they may be more deaf; he
kindles a light, that they may be the more blind; he brings
his doctrine to them, that they may be more ignorant; and
applies the remedy to them, that they may not be healed.”
(Ibid., b. 3, c. 24, s. 13.)
Friend.--Enough, enough. Yet you do not make God the
author of sin!