Treatise Answer To Churchs Remarks
| Author | John Wesley |
|---|---|
| Type | treatise |
| Year | None |
| Passage ID | jw-treatise-answer-to-churchs-remarks-028 |
| Words | 399 |
One more I have since found in the same state:
But observe, neither of these continued therein; nor did I
ever know one that did. So sure it is that all faith is the gift
of God, which the moment he withdraws, the evil heart of un
belief will poison the whole soul.” (Ibid. p. 294.)
Which of these is an “instance of the most desperate
despair?” Surely the most desperate of any, yea, the only
one which is properly said to be desperate at all, is that which
produces instant self-murder; which causes a poor wretch, by
a sin which he cannot repent of, to rush straight through death
into hell. But that was not the case in any of these instances;
in all which we have already seen the end of the Lord. 15. That I “raise separate societies against the Church,”
(Remarks, p. 14,) is a charge which I need not examine till the
evidence is produced. You next cite a Moravian's words to me:
(an Englishman joined with the Moravians:) “You have eyes
full of adultery, and cannot cease from sin; you take upon you
to guide unstable souls, and lead them in the way of damna
tion;” and remark, “This is only returning some of your own
treatment upon yourself. Here also you set the pattern.”
At what time and place, when and where, were “such abuses
as these thrown out by me against our Universities, and against
our regular Clergy, not the highest or the worthiest excepted?”
I am altogether clear in this matter, as often as it has been
objected: Neither do I desire to receive any other treatment
from the Clergy, than they have received from me to this day. You have a note at the bottom of this page which runs thus:
“See pages 71, 77, and 73," where some Methodists said
they had heard both your brother and you many times preach
Popery.”
I am afraid you advance here a wilful untruth, purely ad
movendam invidiam.t. For you cannot but know, (1.) That
there is not one word of preaching Popery, either in page 71 or
77. And (2.) That when Mr. C. and two other Predestinarians
(as is related page 73) affirmed they had heard both my brother
and me many times preach Popery, they meant neither more
nor less thereby than the doctrine of universal redemption. 16.