Treatise Answer To Churchs Remarks
| Author | John Wesley |
|---|---|
| Type | treatise |
| Year | None |
| Passage ID | jw-treatise-answer-to-churchs-remarks-012 |
| Words | 392 |
But we
had then no connexion with them. Neither, therefore, does
this contradict their “loving one another in a manner the
world knoweth not of.”
“You praise them for using no diversions but such as become
saints;” (Ibid. p. 245;) “and yet say,” (Irecite the whole sen
tence,) “I have heard some of you affirm, that “Christian
salvation implies liberty to conform to the world, by joining in
worldly diversions in order to do good.” (Ibid. p. 327.) And
both these are true. The Moravians, in general, “use no
diversions but such as become saints;” and yet I have heard
some of them affirm, in contradiction to their own practice, that
“one then mentioned did well, when he joined in playing at
tennis in order to do good.”
11. “You praise them for not ‘regarding outward adorn
ing.” (Ibid. p. 245.) So I do, the bulk of the congregation. “And yet you say,” (I again recite the whole sentence,) “I
have heard some of you affirm, that “Christian salvation im
plies liberty to conform to the world, by putting on of gold and
costly apparel.” (Ibid. p. 327.) I have so. And I blame them
the more, because they are condemned by the general practice
of their own Church. “You call their discipline “in most respects truly excellent.’
(Ibid. p. 245.) I could wish you had more fully explained
yourself.” I have, in the Second Journal. (Ibid. pp. 115
147.) “It is no sign of good discipline to permit such abomi
nations;” that is, error in opinion, and guile in practice. True, it is not; nor is it any demonstration against it. For
there may be good discipline even in a College of Jesuits. Another fault is, too great a deference to the Count. And yet,
“in most respects, their discipline is truly excellent.”
“You mention it as a good effect of their discipline, that
“every one knows and keeps his proper rank. (Ibid. p. 245.)
Soon after, as it were with a design to confute yourself, you
say, ‘Our brethren have neither wisdom enough to guide, nor
prudence enough to let it alone.” (Ibid. p. 255) Pardon me,
Sir. I have no design either to confute or to contradict myself
in these words. The former sentence is spoken of the Moravian
brethren; the latter, of the English brethren of Fetter-Lane. 12.