Wesley Corpus

Treatise Answer To Churchs Remarks

AuthorJohn Wesley
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YearNone
Passage IDjw-treatise-answer-to-churchs-remarks-012
Words392
Works of Piety Universal Redemption Justifying Grace
But we had then no connexion with them. Neither, therefore, does this contradict their “loving one another in a manner the world knoweth not of.” “You praise them for using no diversions but such as become saints;” (Ibid. p. 245;) “and yet say,” (Irecite the whole sen tence,) “I have heard some of you affirm, that “Christian salvation implies liberty to conform to the world, by joining in worldly diversions in order to do good.” (Ibid. p. 327.) And both these are true. The Moravians, in general, “use no diversions but such as become saints;” and yet I have heard some of them affirm, in contradiction to their own practice, that “one then mentioned did well, when he joined in playing at tennis in order to do good.” 11. “You praise them for not ‘regarding outward adorn ing.” (Ibid. p. 245.) So I do, the bulk of the congregation. “And yet you say,” (I again recite the whole sentence,) “I have heard some of you affirm, that “Christian salvation im plies liberty to conform to the world, by putting on of gold and costly apparel.” (Ibid. p. 327.) I have so. And I blame them the more, because they are condemned by the general practice of their own Church. “You call their discipline “in most respects truly excellent.’ (Ibid. p. 245.) I could wish you had more fully explained yourself.” I have, in the Second Journal. (Ibid. pp. 115 147.) “It is no sign of good discipline to permit such abomi nations;” that is, error in opinion, and guile in practice. True, it is not; nor is it any demonstration against it. For there may be good discipline even in a College of Jesuits. Another fault is, too great a deference to the Count. And yet, “in most respects, their discipline is truly excellent.” “You mention it as a good effect of their discipline, that “every one knows and keeps his proper rank. (Ibid. p. 245.) Soon after, as it were with a design to confute yourself, you say, ‘Our brethren have neither wisdom enough to guide, nor prudence enough to let it alone.” (Ibid. p. 255) Pardon me, Sir. I have no design either to confute or to contradict myself in these words. The former sentence is spoken of the Moravian brethren; the latter, of the English brethren of Fetter-Lane. 12.