Wesley Corpus

Treatise Answer To Churchs Remarks

AuthorJohn Wesley
Typetreatise
YearNone
Passage IDjw-treatise-answer-to-churchs-remarks-002
Words381
Reign of God Justifying Grace Works of Piety
258.) “‘Believers,’ said Mr. Simpson, “are not subject to ordi nances, and unbelievers have nothing to do with them.” (Ibid. p.269.) “‘Believers need not, and unbelievers may not, use them. These do not sin when they abstain from them; but those do sin when they do not abstain.’” (Ibid. p. 277.) “‘For one who is not born of God to read the Scriptures, or to pray, or to communicate, or to do any dutward work, is deadly poison. If he does any of these things, he destroys himself. Mr. Bell earnestly defended this.” (Ibid. p. 281.) “At eight, the society at Nottingham met: I could not but observe that not one who came in used any prayer at all. I looked for one of our Hymn-books; but both that and the Bible were vanished away, and in the room thereof lay the Moravian Hymns and the Count's Sermons.” (Ibid. p. 314.) “One of our English brethren, joined with you, said in his public expounding, ‘As many go to hell by praying as by thieving. Another, ‘I knew one who, leaning over the back of a chair, received a great gift. But he must kneel down to give God thanks: So he lost it immediately; and I know not whether he will ever have it again. And yet another: “You have lost your first joy. Therefore, you pray: That is the devil. You read the Bible: That is the devil. You com municate: That is the devil.’” (Ibid. p. 329.) “They affirmed that there is no commandment in the New Testament but to believe; that no other duty lies upon us; and that, when a man does believe, he is not bound or obliged to do anything which is commanded there.” (Ibid. p. 275.) “Mr. St-told me, “No one has any degree of faith till he is perfect as God is perfect.’” (Ibid. p. 270.) “You believe there are no degrees in faith.” (Ibid.) “I have heard Mr. Molther affirm, that there is no justify ing faith where there is ever any doubt.” (Ibid. p. 328.) “The moment a man is justified, he is sanctified wholly. Thenceforth, till death, he is neither more nor less holy.” (Ibid. p. 324.) “We are to growin grace, but not in holiness.” (Ibid. p. 325.) 2.